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Removing links sorry, Hello all, I am trying to figure out which water softener to get and could use some help. I contacted 2 local companies both got great reviews but I am wondering if I should just buy something at Home Depot or Sears instead. They both claim that there softeners are made locally. I have a 1300 Square foot house with 2 adults and a kid. We live in Phoenix, Arizona (tempe) where the water is very hard Which would you choose? Would you get any more specs?
Or ask any other questions? The fist company is Clear Water Concepts: and they quoted me this Olympus Water Softener System:.
Clack 1' fully ported electronic on-demand control valve. (6 cycle - fully programmable). 48,000 grains commercial grade high cross-link resin. (greater chlorine oxidation resistance). Ecoflow technology (uses 30% less water during backwash, provides greater lift to resin bed, eliminates water channeling, provides cleaner resin). Soft water regeneration (cleaner, more efficient resin bed).
Non-Volatile memory (set-n-forget). Dry brining (eliminates salt bridges, caking). NSF44/WQA validated components.
Made in USA. 10 year part warranty and 5 year labor. Equipment: 1039.00 Installation: 200.00 (to existing loop). The Second is America Home Water and Air has 2 options The President or the Patriot With a lot less tech specs The President 48000 GR.
Cation Resin – Softens and Filters whole house water. Microprocessor Controlled Demand Regeneration.
State of the art true full 1″ Up-flow Brining Control System. Microprocessor Controlled Brining Feature. Dry Brine Storage Option. 10 year parts and labor warranty. $920. $190 install uses the clack high flow valve. It has the best resin available for any water softener on the market.
This valve has many years of reliable service and is the most serviceable valve we have found. This is our top of the line unit. The PRESIDENT is manufactured in Arizona and designed to last 20 to 30 years in Arizona's harsh water environment. The Patriot 48000 GR. two piece design for maximum durability. Demand initiated regeneration saves up to 50% on salt or potassium. Various sized brine tanks available to fit in tight spots when needed.
One piece corrosion resistant valve body; ¾' - 1 - 1 ¼' inlet available. 5 year parts and labor warranty. $1,290. $190 install This is as good a water system as you can buy as it is designed with all the highest quality components we have found all of which make this unit maintenance free. The system uses the Fleck 5600 Economider head The PATRIOT uses the highest quality resin available, plus all the components used in this water softener have many years of proven reliability. We have designed this system to have a life expectancy of 25 to 30 years. The 'Olympus' and 'The President' are the same system.
The 'Patriot' is a perfectly adequate one that does the same job, but uses a little more salt and water. Not sure why they're charging more for the Patriot. A water softener is a valve, a resin tank, distributor, resin, a brine tank, a brine well, pick-up tube, and some tubing and fittings to put it all together. The name they stick on it is just marketing. Clack and Fleck valves are made in the US but not in Arizona, so what they're saying is they piece the system together in Arizona, which doesn't mean much. Stay away from the Home Depot and Sears units.
If you want to go cheaper, you might ask a regular plumber - not someone in the water softener business - how much it would cost to get a system based on the Fleck 5600 Econominder. The 'Olympus' and 'The President' are the same system. The 'Patriot' is a perfectly adequate one that does the same job, but uses a little more salt and water.
Not sure why they're charging more for the Patriot. A water softener is a valve, a resin tank, distributor, resin, a brine tank, a brine well, pick-up tube, and some tubing and fittings to put it all together. The name they stick on it is just marketing.
Clack and Fleck valves are made in the US but not in Arizona, so what they're saying is they piece the system together in Arizona, which doesn't mean much. Stay away from the Home Depot and Sears units.
If you want to go cheaper, you might ask a regular plumber - not someone in the water softener business - how much it would cost to get a system based on the Fleck 5600 Econominder. Sometimes Lowe's and Home Depot have Whirlpool/Maytag water softeners, and these are quite good. I install them myself at my home, and about 8 years ago I found a Whirlpool unit at Lowe's that's still going strong. I paid around $500.00 for it.
But some of the best water softeners cost a lot more than that. Go with the Patriot. The Fleck 5600 has been around for over 40 years, and has a proven track record of reliability and performance. It's the valve I've used since 1976. Parts are readily available, and give a good service life. I use Clack (used by both of the other units) on VERY rare instances, and while it's okay, I don't have the trust in it that I do the Fleck.
Stay away from the box store units - they're cheaper, but almost impossible to find someone that will work on them - they're cheaply designed and built. And I REALLY dislike the 'dry brine' design - it takes about 4 hours for salt to fully dissolve in water, so you don't get a really good dosage from the Clack design. And if you have ANY kind of particulate loading in your tap water, you WANT high-flow backwash. I see an average of 4-6 years out of electronic controls on softeners before they fail, and the timer motor (do NOT get the SS electronic version) on the Fleck 5600 is usually good for 10+ years.I'm amazed when one goes less than that, and I have a number of them that are 20-30 years old with original timing motors. They really are not that much different as long as you avoid gimmicky ones like magnets. I was once a big fan of the high end Kinetico softeners. We had one In California, kept it outside.
It worked and held up fine. Advantages are two tanks (less salt use) and a mostly mechanical system. As far as I know it is still sitting out int he back yard, and still working. It has been about 20 years. I do not thing they make them anymore, but you can find used ones sometimes. The problem with the high end ones is they cost three or more times more, and are not all that much better.
This system includes: Water Softener Tank Assembly. Fleck 5600 Econominder Control Valve. 3/4'or 1' Stainless Steel Bypass. 12' x 52' Fiberglass Mineral Tank. 48' x 1.05' Riser Tube and Cap. Funnel. 2 Cu.
Ft of ResinTech CGS High Capacity Water Softening Resin. 1 Sleve of Gravel Brine Tank Assembly. 230lb. Capacity Brine Tank with Brine Tank Cover.
Salt Grid Base w/ (4) Legs. Float Tube. Float Tube Assembly. Brine Hose. Brine Hose to Fleck Valve Connection Pieces NOTE: This system requires periodic replacement of the brine salt.
This does not come with the system, but is readily available from most hardware and home stores for $5-$8 per 40lb bag. This system includes: Water Softener Tank Assembly.
Fleck 5600 Econominder Control Valve. 3/4'or 1' Stainless Steel Bypass. 12' x 52' Fiberglass Mineral Tank. 48' x 1.05' Riser Tube and Cap. Funnel.
2 Cu. Ft of ResinTech CGS High Capacity Water Softening Resin. 1 Sleve of Gravel Brine Tank Assembly.
230lb. Capacity Brine Tank with Brine Tank Cover. Salt Grid Base w/ (4) Legs. Float Tube. Float Tube Assembly. Brine Hose. Brine Hose to Fleck Valve Connection Pieces NOTE: This system requires periodic replacement of the brine salt.
This does not come with the system, but is readily available from most hardware and home stores for $5-$8 per 40lb bag. Features and Accessories. Model: AFK07 A ¾” Quick Flex connection package with 2 ¾” HOLDRITE Quick Flex Water Connectors, 2 ¾” nipples, 2 ¾” John Guest Speedfit fittings and a roll of Teflon tape. These Quick Flex connections allow you to add a filtration accessory to your existing system with ease. HOLDRITE Quick Flex Water Connectors:. #304 stainless steel water heater flex connectors. Greater flexibility.
Pressure rating: 125 service / 200 maximum PSI. 190°F temperature rated. IAPMO Listed and meets ASME A112.18.6. Complies with California Lead Laws. Highly resistant to kinking.
Provides added flexibility in seismic zones. Reduce installation costs.
Model: AFK10 A 1” Quick Flex connection package with 2 1” HOLDRITE Quick Flex Water Connectors, 2 1” nipples, 2 1” John Guest Speedfit fittings, and a roll of Teflon tape. These Quick Flex connections allow you to add a filtration accessory to your existing system with ease. HOLDRITE Quick Flex Water Connectors:.
#304 stainless steel water heater flex connectors. Greater flexibility. Pressure rating: 125 service / 200 maximum PSI. 190°F temperature rated.
IAPMO Listed and meets ASME A112.18.6. Complies with California Lead Laws. Highly resistant to kinking. Provides added flexibility in seismic zones. Reduce installation costs. Model: NZJ-12x52 The exclusive neoprene zippered jackets are designed specifically to insulate the 12' x 52' softener and filter tanks against ambient temperature drops.
This reduces the possibility of moisture developing on the outside of the tank as well as providing a touch of style to your whole home water conditioner. This uses a full length black zipper for easy installation on tanks and systems that have already been installed.
These versatile jackets are easy to remove to machine wash and keep your resin/media tank in great condition. Model: pro-res-care-1gal RESCARE ResCare will chemically clean a fouled resin bed of a water softener and restore the exchange capacity of the resin. Most types of water softening resins can become fouled with iron and other contaminants that will affect the performance of the ion exchange system.
Iron fouling can cause channeling, pressure drop, loss of capacity, hardness and iron leakage. Regular use of ResCare will minimize fouling and extend the resin life in the water softener. Applications First Application/Fouled Unit: Pour 4 oz. (1/2 cup) of ResCare per cu.
Directly into brine well (for softeners with no brine well, pour directly into salt tank when salt is low). Manually regenerate softener. Repeat regeneration if taste, odor, or discoloration is detected in discharge, then run cold soft water tap nearest the softener until the odor or taste is gone. Regular Use: Add 1/2 oz.
(1 Tbsp.) per cu. To brine well before each regeneration. Automatic Feeder Systems: Follow recommended dosage and feed rates specified by manufacturer or supplier. Features and Benefits. Prevents iron and mineral build-up on integral parts of the softener.
Removes iron and aluminum fouling that causes lost capacit.